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so long I had to dig in my shoutouts

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here so hopefully our listeners and

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friends are here this shuttle goes to

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Nick B in Madison Wisconsin who is an

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avid listener Keith a Mandel

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to Canada and then we got SCE in

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Vancouver Canada so big shout outs to

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paying radio and wow that's uh that's a

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big spiel but now I'm gonna introduce my

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guests they are friends of mine they're

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also on our table on the John Ford UFO

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nightmare show that we do on occasion

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when we get some updates

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they are also I would say the head of

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the Oklahoma paranormal research team

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I'd like to welcome dick and Marilyn

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we're here yes yes that was quite a

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spiel I had to go through a list of

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stuff to just you know I'll throw that

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out there so how you guys been doing

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well we've been you know we've been

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stand-in is busy we just attended a

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three-day archeology conference right

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here at Oklahoma University in Norman

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and so we got kind of caught up on all

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the latest research on digs that they're

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doing right here in Oklahoma

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so digs digs in Oklahoma so they're

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they're finding they're finding uh are

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they finding any type of dinosaurs or

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old ancient ancient like activity in the

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ground yeah there's there's a place up

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by Buffalo that's an that used to be a

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like a kill site for the Native

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Americans and the there's a big ridge

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where they would run the Buffalo off

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that Ridge and of course then when they

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would hit the ground then they Native

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Americans would be down you know down at

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the bottom waiting for him and then they

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would they would make sure that they you

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know captured him and and killed him and

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there's a lot of bones and shirts and

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points and so forth that are there

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carving tools tools that they used to

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take the hide off the animals and stuff

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like that are all all being found in

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that region and this

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and it's been used for thousands of

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years yeah yeah we we had a buffalo bone

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we were examined it was probably they

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said somewhere around 10,000 years old

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wouldn't think about in Oklahoma but

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it's it's it's there well and then

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there's old Native American encampments

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that are being dug out as well and so

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those those are some interesting things

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then that's down central to southwest

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Oklahoma along the Red River there's

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there's a couple digs down that way

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isn't there by the Kansas border the

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camel yes up in the panhandle of

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Oklahoma near Colorado they have camels

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that were like miniature camels that

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they've discovered also and they've been

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working on those digs who are thought

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well yeah yeah who would have thought

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yeah so you know I mean we enjoy doing

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that nick has learned how to do photo

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what they call photo geometry and what

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that is is it's it's software that you

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can photograph an object from all

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different angles and then it goes into

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the software and it takes it and puts it

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all together and then you as you examine

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the whole item you can turn it around

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and then back down there's a 3d yeah it

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makes it 3d and you can just turn it all

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the way around and upside down and back

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and forth and look at any portion or

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part of the object that you want to look

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at please what yeah

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and so a lot of work yeah it is and and

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he just recently talked to some

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archaeologists at fact the state state

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archaeologists is interested in getting

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him to do some photo geometry work for

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the university so Wow

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that's gonna keep you busy oh oh yeah

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yeah well that's neat you have that

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going on right in your home state you

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know every state has its

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has its has it's strange area or or our

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you know ancient ancient area so that's

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neat that it's just things that Oklahoma

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many Campbell's I mean camels excuse me

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Campbell's talking soup but uh yeah that

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that's neat so you know guys when did

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you uh you guys have been in this field

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quite a long time what got you into this

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field or when did you start you've been

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doing this research for in you know with

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the unknown and paranormal for quite a

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few many years how long has it been for

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started back in probably 89 or 90 I

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really started taking a big interest in

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it had some experiences and sightings

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and that brought me into spending a year

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studying how to become a hypnotherapist

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and started working with abductees and

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that was down in Mississippi and then we

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moved from Mississippi to Virginia and I

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continued looking into things working

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with abductees there and you know worked

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a lot with MUFON people and let's see

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what else

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well we actually joined MUFON yeah we

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well we finally revealed investigate

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2003 and I was Oklahoma State Director

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for a while and continued to do

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hypnotherapy for people and of course

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the numerous investigations as

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investigators for MUFON and then we

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decided to leave MUFON and we started

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our own group the Oklahoma UFO

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paranormal team and we brought on board

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we took a whole bunch of MUFON people

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with us but and those people remain a

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part of our team and we've had what

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we've lost one team member

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- peacock passed away almost two years

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ago now and we had another team member

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that that was near Spiro and he he

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have come and gone yeah we've got a

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couple that have come and gone but we

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still have bill and Julie may of course

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Ken Storch and dick and I and we have a

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fairly recent member Mike rowdy he's a

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new member

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he's a private investigator and has some

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really interesting things going on and

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we frequently go to the Oklahoma Private

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Investigators gazers yeah Private

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Investigators associations conferences

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and meetings that they have once a month

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and Mike's big biggest thing that he

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works for works with is missing people

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so which kind of brings him into some of

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cases of child trafficking

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you know we we hear about those and we

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found them very interesting it's got a

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good kid because he lives down in Ada

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and so if anything's going on that you

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know sightings and such he gets to go

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attack at first yeah but he's had some

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strange things he yeah he he lives on

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about 20 acres down an ADA with the he's

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down there living with his son and he

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called us one time and said this was one

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of the first he first became a team

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member he had a huge canine print on his

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property and we went down and looked at

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it and it was the only print that was

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there and it was it was huge it was five

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about five or six inches across his cane

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or was canine it's definitely a canine

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paw print

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not only it but it whatever it was it

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was huge and he had had the experience

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about or two months before he found this

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print he looked out towards his barn

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which is a little ways

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on the property and he saw what he

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thought was a fox running across the the

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land there and he went in and he the

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dogs were went crazy of course barking

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and going crazy and he went in and he

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got his gun

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and he came back out and he walked out

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towards where it was where he could get

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a better look and it stood up on its

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hind legs and walked towards him very

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threatening Lee and he realized that

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this thing was no small creature that it

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probably on its head and standing on his

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hind legs stood about seven foot tall

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Wow and the way it walked it walked

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rather human-like but yet it had legs

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like the hind legs of a dog and so then

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when he found these footprints a couple

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months later he called us and told us

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about it and we do have a photograph of

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the the casting on the owner website and

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and then he and his son saw a oh gosh

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what shape was it it was a diamond shape

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jail diamond shaped UFO that went right

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over the top of the house daytime

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sighting and it went over the top of

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them over the top of the house and they

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ran around to the other side and watched

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it go off and there was a single-engine

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airplane flying into the scene and and

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it didn't seem to react to it but it it

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the the craft you reacted to it and

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turned and went in another direction

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reacted to the airplane so that was

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another report that we had and then I

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guess what two months ago Ken had gotten

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a call the guy called from through our

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website he was coming down highway 412

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coming towards Locust Grove where Ken

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lives and he and his mother

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saw up in the sky fifty to a hundred

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silver balls Wow and that was in the

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morning like 10:30 11:30 in the morning

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and then that night Mike and his cousin

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were driving back to town to home and

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they see this star like object and at

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first they thought it was an airplane

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then they thought no maybe it's a

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satellite then they realized it was too

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low and it kept getting bigger and

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bigger and bigger and finally it went

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over the top of them and it turned out

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to be a silver colored round ball shaped

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object and it went right over the top of

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their their vehicle Oh Mike wanted to

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stop and take a picture and his cousin

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wouldn't let him use it doesn't believe

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in you he says I think I believe in UFOs

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now before he didn't believe it but that

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was the same night that that was

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reported that the fifty to a hundred

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silver balls so they were about a

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hundred and fifty miles apart but on the

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same day so we kind of looked into that

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and don't have an answer for what what

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they saw at all but that when Ken got

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the report of the 50 to 100 silver balls

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he did not see those silver balls but at

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the same time he was out on the back

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porch just kind of taking it easy and he

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heard this kind of a strange wishing

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noise and so he didn't know what it was

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but then the other day he called and he

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says well I think I figured out what

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that whooshing sound was he he was out

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on the property doing some work and he

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heard the swishing noise and he looked

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up and what he saw was a whole flock of

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teal birds coming down for a landing on

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the lake and when they all came down at

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once it made that same

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no he's city he thinks that maybe you

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know he didn't see the birds but he

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that's what he heard was probably birds

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coming in for a landing on the lake so

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that we think we've kind of solved that

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part of the mystery but the silver ball

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still remains well came on knowing when

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the guy reported it to Cannon I mean

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can't check with the police and Sheriff

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and yeah nobody reported anything yeah

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you know he checked all around all the

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major places that would take a report of

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anything unusual so that was at a

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daytime sighting or a nighttime yeah it

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was about 10:30 11:30 in the morning

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okay and print oh did you see that video

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over Milwaukee with the I'll have to

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send it to you there was it was we put

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it on our website at the UFO at

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Wisconsin you're full research team but

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there was some weird objects over

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Milwaukee like they almost look like a

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asteroid splitting up like a firework

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but it was really strange looking I'll

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send you the video see what you think I

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did I shared it on inception radio

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yeah yeah that was a little bit that was

340
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a little bit strange no no no dick

341
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what's your bet what's your background

342
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she uh she pulled me into it no I like

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to investigate things I mean I'm an

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engineer and so I'm kind of interested

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in a little bit everything and yeah and

346
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I was always into photography so we get

347
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things in reports when I was a field

348
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investigator for MUFON and and look into

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it you know most of our stuff was lights

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in the skies so you had to go through

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and you know is there any airports close

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and of course sometimes the report was

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like you know a month after it happened

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but

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yeah I'm sure you have experienced some

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of that in your last agates - oh yeah

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that I worked for Lockheed Martin well

358
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actually I work for the government and I

359
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went to work for IBM they built the

360
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first digitized submarine sonar and that

361
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was my my thing with submarine sonar was

362
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when I was in the Navy I was up marine

363
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so Norman and you know when I retired

364
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from but IBM sold our division to Laurel

365
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and Laurel sold us to Lockheed Martin

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and my phone number never changed and my

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room never changed and a good thing as

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my wages never changed either good good

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now I retired from him well then we

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started you know having more time on our

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hands to start getting involved and I

372
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find it really interesting I know that

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people when they report stuff this is

374
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from being the field investigator with

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MUFON I mean they saw something mm-hmm

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you don't know if it's real or not real

377
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or what it is but they saw something

378
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because for somebody to come forward and

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you know it kind of changes their their

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life because they kind of get you know a

381
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notoriety yeah and people kind of say

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well you know you did what I don't

383
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believe that and only sort of thing but

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the people that you know I've had

385
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close-up sightings and interaction with

386
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et it really does change their their

387
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whole life they that's how good many

388
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people get involved in investigations of

389
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UFOs is because of their own personal

390
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experiences and me being an engineer I'm

391
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I'm I'm a skeptic but I can't be turned

392
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I mean there's some things especially in

393
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the paranormal that are just you know

394
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why does that happen

395
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:31,530
yeah and it isn't just your thoughts

396
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that we investigate we we investigate

397
00:19:40,670 --> 00:19:37,560
ghosts and paranormal things in people's

398
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homes and we we've been chasing after

399
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Bigfoot and you know we the train has

400
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been kind of slow yeah it's but I

401
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everybody I've talked to is kind of had

402
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a slow winter as far as reports coming

403
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in but I also know that there's a large

404
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number of people that are starting their

405
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own groups and and investigating certain

406
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things yeah but we talked at the Paracon

407
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here in Oklahoma they they always had

408
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people on that that talked about ghost

409
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hunting but they decided this year that

410
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they were going to include UFOs and

411
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Bigfoot and so they contact

412
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yeah they contacted us want to know if

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we wanted to talk about UFOs at the

414
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Farrakhan so we did and then we turned

415
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him on to Jim Whitehead who's a local

416
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Bigfoot researcher here in Oklahoma so

417
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he presented on Bigfoot and so that was

418
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a very interesting conference and made

419
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we made some new friends there and and

420
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then after that we in January we went to

421
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the move on conference

422
00:21:06,019 --> 00:21:00,539
MUFON crews oh yeah yeah yeah and that

423
00:21:08,899 --> 00:21:06,029
was a lot of fun and they they had

424
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mostly MUFON people that were involved

425
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with speaking and what we did is we left

426
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out of Florida yeah out of Tampa Florida

427
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and the first couple days at sea we

428
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attended the conference part of it

429
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several hours a day and the speakers

430
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were Tony Angie Ola and Ben moss from

431
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there from Virginia their what their Sat

432
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team and what I can't remember anyway

433
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their investigators for MUFON and so

434
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they they presented on the Socorro case

435
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and they went out and spent a lot of

436
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:53,399
time investigating that talking to as

437
00:22:00,680 --> 00:21:55,049
many witnesses that are still living

438
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:00,690
that investigated it and then they

439
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realized I said well you know can can

440
00:22:05,869 --> 00:22:04,169
investigate

441
00:22:10,009 --> 00:22:05,879
that too and he had a chance to talk to

442
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,019
the the police officer that um

443
00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:13,440
Lodi yes yeah I saw the you landed and

444
00:22:16,009 --> 00:22:14,940
the little beings on the ground and

445
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stuff hmm

446
00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:18,450
and so ken was gonna send him an imagine

447
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who probably has he was gonna send him a

448
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:21,720
bunch in there and for me information

449
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that he had because they're working on a

450
00:22:31,749 --> 00:22:26,489
book and then chase kutsuki was a

451
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presenter and she she talked about this

452
00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:35,429
Starchild skull and her research on that

453
00:22:41,499 --> 00:22:38,190
and some of her research on the

454
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:41,509
elongated Peruvian elongated skulls that

455
00:22:45,649 --> 00:22:44,129
involved with the Starchild yeah we were

456
00:22:48,649 --> 00:22:45,659
involved and helped her a little bit

457
00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:48,659
with research on the Starchild hooked

458
00:22:55,159 --> 00:22:52,350
her up with the ocean osteology Museum

459
00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:55,169
here in Oklahoma and if you any of you

460
00:22:59,899 --> 00:22:57,480
have never been to that museum you ought

461
00:23:04,849 --> 00:22:59,909
to go because it's just fascinating it's

462
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a huge two floors of bones just bones

463
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and and every animal that you can think

464
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of they probably got the bones of those

465
00:23:18,109 --> 00:23:16,129
animals there yeah from a Orca down to

466
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:18,119
hummingbird oh wow

467
00:23:24,019 --> 00:23:20,730
yeah and everything in between yeah

468
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,029
including humans yeah yeah they have

469
00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:25,919
some elongated skulls there too

470
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,919
and and this is the Starchild skull

471
00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:31,200
associated with Lloyd Pye correct yeah

472
00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:34,230
yeah yeah I was I actually was in

473
00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:36,600
contact with actually Lloyd was on an

474
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old old show when I had a different

475
00:23:42,349 --> 00:23:40,859
co-host and I was more of the guy in the

476
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background but we got to talk to Lloyd

477
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and then I would I would communicate

478
00:23:47,239 --> 00:23:46,019
with him through email and you know you

479
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:47,249
know and I would donate to the cause and

480
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then he you know he got sick with cancer

481
00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:51,649
then he passed a few years back and yeah

482
00:23:59,690 --> 00:23:57,179
yeah Melanie went to chase and Esther if

483
00:24:01,789 --> 00:23:59,700
she would help her do some research on

484
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:01,799
it and Chris and chase and asked us to

485
00:24:09,109 --> 00:24:04,850
help a little bit as well oh cool

486
00:24:12,139 --> 00:24:09,119
they did DNA testing on it and found

487
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that it of course has no alien DNA what

488
00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:17,700
I mean you know there Lloyd kind of yeah

489
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:20,790
oh yeah yeah it was it was a situation

490
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:23,820
where yeah it looked very strange and

491
00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:27,650
looked alien like because there were

492
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parts and pieces of the facial structure

493
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:33,150
that was missing in in the skull and so

494
00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:35,930
that's why it look the eyes looked like

495
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:39,990
they were alien shaped eyes and so forth

496
00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:43,410
but if you put the skull - and had the

497
00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:46,460
pieces filled in which we did have a

498
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:49,500
researcher help us an FBI forensics

499
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:53,730
artist helped us with that and she took

500
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and made out the the outline and

501
00:25:02,000 --> 00:24:59,760
everything of the skull and drew what

502
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:02,010
was there on the skull and then she

503
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:06,840
filled in the mandible the mandible eye

504
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bone pieces and the nose piece of

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structure that's missing and and so

506
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:16,980
forth and it's very likely that the

507
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Starchild was approximately five years

508
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of age based on tooth and what was what

509
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:28,770
was partially there of the of the upper

510
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upper jaw and it was five years old I

511
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:34,730
think the way his head is shaped he's II

512
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:39,810
he couldn't really move yeah he he was

513
00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:42,210
just laid on his back it appeared like

514
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:45,080
the child may have been hydrocephalic oh

515
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:49,440
sure yeah so it caused the shape that

516
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they had to be different and it also

517
00:26:01,940 --> 00:25:56,400
appears that perhaps the mother may have

518
00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:01,950
tried to bind the head in which case it

519
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:05,430
would misshape the the Hydra palace of

520
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:09,810
the the skull structure and so it ended

521
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:13,800
up a strange shape okay it is the DNA

522
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:16,880
shows that it's how to present human

523
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:20,610
coming from the southern Texas region

524
00:26:30,530 --> 00:26:25,590
and the Central America region the

525
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mother and the father okay Oh repatriate

526
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:31,320
in the right

527
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:32,970
yes they're working on trying to

528
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,900
repatriate it oh okay well well guys

529
00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:38,640
well guys let's take let's take a quick

530
00:26:42,170 --> 00:26:40,350
break here you're listening to paying

531
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:42,180
radio on the inception radio network and

532
00:26:45,740 --> 00:26:43,500
tonight we have on Maryland and Dick

533
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:45,750
Carlson and we're talking about their

534
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:48,330
research and other unknown aspects of

535
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:53,790
the paranormal stay with us welcome back

536
00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:56,100
to paying radio actually we are live

537
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:58,950
tonight we are live with dick and

538
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:01,440
Marilyn Carlson of the you Oklahoma UFO

539
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:03,570
paranormal team and we're going over

540
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:06,090
their research and you know a lot of

541
00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:07,710
what they dive into and they what they

542
00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:09,870
deal with it's everything from from

543
00:27:15,290 --> 00:27:12,150
ghost hunting in Saco so I think goes to

544
00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:15,300
research to UFOs Bigfoot strange

545
00:27:20,030 --> 00:27:18,600
anomalies I mean a lot a lot of cool

546
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:20,040
stuff they get into but we had a

547
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:21,750
question in chat I'm gonna hit the

548
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:24,570
question and I gotta find the question

549
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:28,440
guys so stand by we are okay this is

550
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:30,840
this is I think this one's for dick how

551
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:33,510
hard is it to tell the computer fakes

552
00:27:37,340 --> 00:27:35,550
especially with the new iPhone that lets

553
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:37,350
people fake live videos I mean can you

554
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:39,000
can you tell the difference stick with

555
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:40,530
all this new technology out there to

556
00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:43,080
record video and in in in you know

557
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Photoshop pitchers if you have the if I

558
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:51,330
can get the Excel data which all the

559
00:27:58,790 --> 00:27:56,220
electronic photos have in the original

560
00:28:01,370 --> 00:27:58,800
you can you can get a lot of information

561
00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:01,380
out of that Excel stuff like you know

562
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:03,750
what the shutter speed was in the dates

563
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:06,090
and all that if they've had an overlay

564
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:09,570
on it yeah yeah if it's uh that they've

565
00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:13,440
been photoshopping it or whatever but

566
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:16,230
it's so it gives you a lot of

567
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:19,050
information unfortunately most of the

568
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:21,000
time when we get something that

569
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:22,860
somebody's seen we don't get the

570
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:25,140
original they end up you know sending it

571
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,940
by you know either email or send you the

572
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:32,100
message and sometimes that stuff is

573
00:28:35,470 --> 00:28:34,650
stripped off of it I don't know why but

574
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:35,480
it is

575
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:38,100
but with that extra data you can get

576
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:40,770
quite a bit of information yeah oh wow

577
00:28:44,780 --> 00:28:42,930
that's that's I know I've sent you a

578
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:44,790
couple photos and then I

579
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:46,170
the first thing we're gonna get sending

580
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:47,730
you an email they're like sandy original

581
00:28:52,910 --> 00:28:51,990
don't yeah yeah definitely the way to do

582
00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:52,920
it yeah absolutely

583
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:54,390
so hear that out there everybody if you

584
00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:56,910
see something take the picture send the

585
00:29:00,920 --> 00:28:59,100
original don't pass it on don't email it

586
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:00,930
to 12 people have that person email it

587
00:29:05,270 --> 00:29:02,460
do this and that just just get it right

588
00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:05,280
to the person right away and if you're

589
00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:07,980
not using iPhone for taking a night shot

590
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:13,080
is don't use the zoom and just put the

591
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:15,480
zoom out to infinity and take the

592
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:18,170
picture because these smart cameras

593
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,150
they're actually too smart when you put

594
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:22,980
it up there to take a picture in the

595
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,210
middle of the night that camera is

596
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:26,460
trying to figure out you know what do

597
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:28,620
you want to do with this and it'll

598
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:32,250
sometimes when it zooms it you get this

599
00:29:37,370 --> 00:29:36,000
big wonderful bloom on your picture and

600
00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:37,380
if you have a really good imagination

601
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:39,540
you can see faces and all kinds of other

602
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:41,850
things inside that inside that round

603
00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:44,970
this happened to us was working for an

604
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:47,940
was with MUFON and we the sky called us

605
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:50,490
from Drumright Oklahoma which is over by

606
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:54,210
out by Tulsa and he had taken all these

607
00:29:59,150 --> 00:29:57,330
pictures and there were video and and

608
00:30:02,090 --> 00:29:59,160
this was the real thing so we actually

609
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:02,100
went out on the investigation he showed

610
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:05,940
us the DVD that he had done and sure

611
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:07,950
enough it's you getting this you can see

612
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:09,570
these again if you've got a good

613
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:10,260
imagination

614
00:30:15,530 --> 00:30:12,570
yeah I'm freaked I didn't have the audio

615
00:30:17,150 --> 00:30:15,540
one so we got a copy of the DVD and we

616
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:17,160
brought it home and looked at it and

617
00:30:22,660 --> 00:30:20,310
every time it he every time but went out

618
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:22,670
of focus he got one of these beautiful

619
00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:26,640
round blooms and you could actually hear

620
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:30,260
the poor camera groans is it oh yeah

621
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:32,970
focus you know what the first guy was so

622
00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:34,980
convinced he said well you know I'll

623
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,270
give this to you but you can't show it

624
00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:38,760
to anybody because I want UFO Hunters to

625
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,670
get this and well it simply was that he

626
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:49,200
when we take care of our own hearts

627
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,000
we're also taking care of the people

628
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:53,220
closest to us so it's comforting to know

629
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:55,170
that RWJ Barnabas

630
00:30:59,780 --> 00:30:57,210
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631
00:31:01,820 --> 00:30:59,790
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632
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:01,830
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633
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:04,290
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634
00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:06,600
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635
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:09,870
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636
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:13,410
org slash heart RW j Barnabas health

637
00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:17,400
let's be healthy together you know he

638
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:22,380
was trying to videotape the the what

639
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:26,550
they call the evening star yeah we were

640
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:27,930
there in a daylight and we actually

641
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:29,970
stayed that night and put up our night

642
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:34,290
vision stuff and he's got darker and

643
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:36,210
darker and said yeah see right there it

644
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:38,100
is it comes back every single night

645
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:44,970
serious it's usually Venus to or it's

646
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:47,250
usually Venus yeah it was kind of cloudy

647
00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:49,260
and you can see it was a night vision it

648
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:51,420
you know the star would get brighter is

649
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:53,730
the client came out in the cloud I'll

650
00:31:58,130 --> 00:31:56,100
defend it kind of wispy clouded we get

651
00:32:00,740 --> 00:31:58,140
dark or you get you know not as bright

652
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:00,750
and so I mean to get a good imagination

653
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:04,020
I mean it diddle it'll do it and of

654
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,610
course when we explained to him and

655
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:07,440
showed him on a night vision he didn't

656
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:10,770
believe it so left he was still looking

657
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:13,170
waiting for you have for hundreds to

658
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,740
give him a call yeah everybody's Laurie

659
00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:18,720
glory to fame claim to fame they want

660
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:22,020
well this last year we went to contact

661
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:28,170
in the desert and they had a sky watch

662
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:31,860
going that night and it was being

663
00:32:37,970 --> 00:32:34,710
operated by melinda Leslie and she was

664
00:32:40,490 --> 00:32:37,980
kind of up on the top of the hill and we

665
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:40,500
were down at the bottom of the hill in

666
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:43,230
the campground area and we set up our

667
00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:45,630
night vision and we were scanning the

668
00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:48,990
skies just like they were and we looked

669
00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:51,500
across the valley and all of a sudden

670
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:55,560
seven lights some were different colors

671
00:33:00,740 --> 00:32:58,650
one was red and there was a blue and

672
00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:00,750
there was green and there were different

673
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:03,240
colors and they came shooting down over

674
00:33:11,810 --> 00:33:08,190
the hillside from across the river

675
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,820
and down the valley and course

676
00:33:15,379 --> 00:33:13,919
everybody's all excited that there was

677
00:33:18,619 --> 00:33:15,389
screaming up there they were screaming

678
00:33:20,659 --> 00:33:18,629
up on the hill you know huh and I'm gone

679
00:33:22,999 --> 00:33:20,669
dick look look look you know and he

680
00:33:25,639 --> 00:33:23,009
finally gets them in in the viewfinder

681
00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:25,649
on our night vision we are able to

682
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,309
capture two of them s-sir yeah bison

683
00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:31,679
coming across with beside each other

684
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:33,990
yeah and come to find out

685
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:37,559
Melinda Leslie posted on Facebook did

686
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:40,500
anybody get any photographs or video of

687
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:45,600
those objects that night and so I posted

688
00:33:52,369 --> 00:33:48,870
I said well we we've captured it we've

689
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,379
got a video of two of them but we're

690
00:33:57,249 --> 00:33:54,720
good you know well and we'll post it up

691
00:33:59,930 --> 00:33:57,259
on Facebook but we have to get it

692
00:34:02,779 --> 00:33:59,940
narrowed down and edited so otherwise

693
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:02,789
it's too large to just put up on on

694
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:07,440
Facebook so we edited it and it's up on

695
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:11,099
our website mm-hmm and if Jimmy Church

696
00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:15,839
presented it yeah yeah yeah super famous

697
00:34:22,099 --> 00:34:19,220
for a couple minutes ah that's great

698
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:22,109
yeah but we couldn't believe it we were

699
00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:24,510
the only ones that actually videotaped

700
00:34:28,819 --> 00:34:27,300
it that's crazy what saw how many people

701
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:28,829
do you think were there there's probably

702
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:31,530
a hundred people at her her sky watching

703
00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:33,929
that was just last night Nick and I

704
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:37,230
count down in the gap all by ourselves

705
00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:41,010
and somebody could have sat with us if

706
00:34:46,099 --> 00:34:44,149
they wanted but I think we offered was

707
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:46,109
everybody wanted to be up on the hill

708
00:34:52,609 --> 00:34:49,770
and yeah she was had a no goggles so

709
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:52,619
yeah people trade it off so they could

710
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,970
see you know what's going on yeah yeah

711
00:35:01,000 --> 00:34:58,800
yeah she's quite a character she was

712
00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:01,010
just on Laurie and Finn's

713
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:03,240
California MUFON show a few weeks ago

714
00:35:08,059 --> 00:35:04,859
yeah she's quite a character she's fun

715
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,069
too fun to listen to yeah the only thing

716
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:10,079
I have complain about her is they used

717
00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:12,990
you know lasers and you don't know if

718
00:35:16,490 --> 00:35:14,339
that thing you see if there's an

719
00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:16,500
airplane or not and that's not good all

720
00:35:19,849 --> 00:35:18,750
right ray the look that that dang plane

721
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:19,859
I'll hit the side of the hill you'll

722
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:20,930
blind the guy

723
00:35:28,329 --> 00:35:26,210
you know the pilot yeah yeah it is

724
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:28,339
against the law to use laser oh yeah I

725
00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:30,260
have one too and I don't really ever

726
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:32,420
take it out I mean I can I can basically

727
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:34,490
point at a house in Duluth Minnesota

728
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:36,650
like three miles away on a hill and it's

729
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,430
not going to even deal with that then

730
00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:41,839
you can just you can just you can just

731
00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:43,430
smell the thing cooking the air around

732
00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:45,950
you too and yeah you just don't want to

733
00:35:50,319 --> 00:35:47,329
play with them things or not they're not

734
00:35:51,970 --> 00:35:50,329
good but another question in chat we had

735
00:35:55,299 --> 00:35:51,980
as soon as I get back to chat I was on

736
00:35:57,849 --> 00:35:55,309
your website somebody wanted to know you

737
00:35:59,799 --> 00:35:57,859
know do you do you think stuff on

738
00:36:01,210 --> 00:35:59,809
YouTube is is real or polish do you

739
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:01,220
think there's a lot of hoaxing going on

740
00:36:06,910 --> 00:36:03,050
YouTube or is it good to post these days

741
00:36:08,799 --> 00:36:06,920
on YouTube a little sightings yes there

742
00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:08,809
is a lot of hoaxing and there's a lot of

743
00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:13,430
people that want to be you know wannabes

744
00:36:20,109 --> 00:36:16,670
but they're one of these they will fake

745
00:36:21,819 --> 00:36:20,119
it they will poke something and and well

746
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:21,829
tell me about it makes it harder for

747
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:23,630
those of us that want to honestly

748
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:27,730
investigate tell about to somebody well

749
00:36:34,750 --> 00:36:32,470
we we had a case that we had taken oh

750
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:34,760
gosh it's probably been four or five

751
00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:39,410
years ago and this lady had reported

752
00:36:45,940 --> 00:36:43,640
seeing this creature come across the

753
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:45,950
road walked on two hind legs it had a

754
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:49,460
long tail that curled up over its back

755
00:36:58,569 --> 00:36:55,430
and but it it walked human-like but yet

756
00:37:00,789 --> 00:36:58,579
it looked like it was lizard like and it

757
00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:00,799
was kind of a bluish color the skin

758
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:02,660
looked blue he's about five o'clock in

759
00:37:06,430 --> 00:37:05,000
the morning in yeah oh you know was in

760
00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:06,440
December yeah

761
00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:09,140
and so the headlights of the car

762
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:12,680
actually shined off the skin so anyway

763
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:15,200
we we we took the report we went out

764
00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:16,970
investigated it we didn't find a

765
00:37:24,549 --> 00:37:20,299
footprint but as we suspected that it

766
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:24,559
was a raccoon print and there lies a

767
00:37:30,099 --> 00:37:28,250
half after yeah yeah yeah yeah she she

768
00:37:32,589 --> 00:37:30,109
debated and debated on reporting it and

769
00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:32,599
she waited you know like a month and a

770
00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:33,980
half well by the time we got

771
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:37,190
there look for footprints all we found

772
00:37:43,090 --> 00:37:40,490
was the raccoon print and it had rained

773
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:43,100
and so forth so if there was any

774
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,310
evidence of a footprint from having

775
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:48,320
coming up out of the culvert and she had

776
00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:50,330
done a drawing for us of what you saw

777
00:38:00,510 --> 00:37:55,190
right she did and so by by maybe six

778
00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:00,520
months ago we see a report on Facebook

779
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:06,230
somebody some used exactly our story a

780
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:09,470
description changed the date by one year

781
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:12,260
and and used her drawing and used her

782
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:16,880
drawing and said it was his report it's

783
00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:19,910
kind of the kind of upset me because oh

784
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:23,600
gosh yeah yeah yes why would you do that

785
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:25,820
but you know I wouldn't do it to

786
00:38:31,090 --> 00:38:29,150
somebody no a few things about his

787
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:31,100
report but he used the very basics of

788
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:35,390
our report and you know as I'm reading

789
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,280
the report I'm going wait a minute I

790
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:39,440
think I've heard this before nobody who

791
00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:46,160
saw them yeah the drawing yes oh yeah

792
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:48,500
yeah that's that's kind of happening to

793
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:50,690
us too you know with our shows on

794
00:38:53,770 --> 00:38:52,340
YouTube people are ripping them off so

795
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,780
everybody out there listening if you're

796
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:55,760
ripping off our shows we do have

797
00:39:01,930 --> 00:38:58,010
copyright protection so you don't want a

798
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:01,940
lawsuit against you yeah yeah definitely

799
00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:06,650
and something that was interesting ken

800
00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:09,230
has a son that lives in the northernmost

801
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:15,070
part of Wisconsin and oh I guess about a

802
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:21,920
two weeks ago maybe it had snowed and he

803
00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:26,390
had he had a 50-pound bag of apples that

804
00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:29,180
he had bought from the local farmers

805
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:31,940
market and he put those apples out for

806
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:35,690
the deer and he had him hanging in a

807
00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:41,810
lean-to shed that had a didn't really

808
00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:43,840
have a door it just had like a piece of

809
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:47,630
plywood big piece of plywood

810
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:53,210
against it for a door and he heard some

811
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:56,960
howling oh he was all on the back porch

812
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:01,760
and it was around dusk and he heard some

813
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:04,490
howling that kind of went back and forth

814
00:40:10,210 --> 00:40:07,330
and he thought that he knew it wasn't a

815
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:10,220
coyote because he'd heard coyotes before

816
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:17,110
and it was just a real guttural howl and

817
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:22,550
that night something got into the

818
00:40:28,450 --> 00:40:24,950
lean-to took down that 50 pound of

819
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:28,460
apples and and walked away with them it

820
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:32,330
didn't run but the footstep was like 51

821
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:37,190
inch footsteps in the snow and Ken's son

822
00:40:46,270 --> 00:40:39,770
is a big guy he's like 6 3 ways maybe

823
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,280
250 he couldn't match that footstep and

824
00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:48,640
it was a pretty good sized footprint and

825
00:40:55,690 --> 00:40:51,860
he thought it looked like Bigfoot but he

826
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:55,700
couldn't be absolutely sure and he

827
00:41:01,240 --> 00:40:57,850
wasn't able to cast the print because

828
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:01,250
the snow was a little bit too deep but

829
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:04,610
we asked him or did he put on a game

830
00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:06,890
camera and I guess there's so many deer

831
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:11,420
around her that he doesn't he's just

832
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:15,890
taking pictures long time yeah so it

833
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:19,070
kind of looks like his son had a Bigfoot

834
00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:21,230
experience even though he didn't really

835
00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:23,870
see him there's evidence a Bigfoot I

836
00:41:27,850 --> 00:41:25,400
wonder where I wonder where he's located

837
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:27,860
because he's I mean I'm in the farthest

838
00:41:31,090 --> 00:41:29,630
northwest part of Wisconsin he's got to

839
00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:31,100
be nearby me within a couple hundred

840
00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:34,340
miles of that you know I don't remember

841
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:35,720
the name of the town and next time you

842
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:38,570
talk to Ken yeah in ask him what town

843
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:40,970
his son lived in Austria yeah it

844
00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:43,490
probably is close to you yeah he's in a

845
00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:45,950
real small town that the county there's

846
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:47,840
like only 1,400 people in the whole

847
00:41:53,020 --> 00:41:50,300
entire county oh I bet you he's over by

848
00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:53,030
he could be closer to Michigan - yeah

849
00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:56,750
you get some apples yeah I'll bring him

850
00:41:59,340 --> 00:41:57,740
some apples and we'll do a little

851
00:42:03,540 --> 00:41:59,350
squatching

852
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:03,550
yeah go by the way Bigfoot does like

853
00:42:12,450 --> 00:42:10,030
apples so lots of them now Maryland

854
00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:12,460
Maryland a few years back I was a head

855
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:14,200
of gentlemen contact me in our County

856
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:15,850
and we were out on his property looking

857
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:19,420
around and you told me to bring a sweet

858
00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:21,490
scented candle with you was is that that

859
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:24,820
was you right yes yes so why would that

860
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:26,830
attract a Bigfoot let let our listeners

861
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:28,060
know that's and I think it was a neat

862
00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:29,500
concept oh of course we brought a candle

863
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:33,820
with us to the honey

864
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:36,010
they are very attracted to the scent of

865
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:40,300
honeysuckle and adapters the honeysuckle

866
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:42,700
will put out little berries no eat those

867
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:46,870
oh sure and so just about anything that

868
00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:50,410
puts out edible berries they're gonna be

869
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:51,820
around but they do they do like

870
00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:52,570
honeysuckle

871
00:42:57,210 --> 00:42:55,120
the one at Kent's I was eatin crawfish

872
00:42:59,730 --> 00:42:57,220
so yeah the last time you went up to

873
00:43:01,560 --> 00:42:59,740
Pennsylvania we got some crawfish oral

874
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:01,570
and I'll tell you don't don't spill that

875
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:05,470
on you it's worse than skunk

876
00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:10,090
oh wow did that we baited down the word

877
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:12,630
kennesaw that one there in Pennsylvania

878
00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:15,570
and my son we went down with honeysuckle

879
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:21,580
with the oil we even got some bowls some

880
00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:24,910
meat and hung it up and the only thing

881
00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:26,590
we ever got on the game camera was a

882
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:28,600
bunch of crows figuring out trying to

883
00:43:37,470 --> 00:43:34,740
then we kind of came up with the idea

884
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:37,480
that they're nomadic and talking to

885
00:43:43,650 --> 00:43:41,140
people since then a lot of people the

886
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:43,660
good they are no words they're on a

887
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:46,450
territory but yeah you know they don't

888
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:48,250
stay in one spot and the other thing is

889
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:52,750
that's those of you don't want to try

890
00:44:00,090 --> 00:43:54,910
the tree knocking technique see if you

891
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:00,100
get a response use only the tree

892
00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:02,730
branches from whatever is a local tree

893
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:07,540
to hit hit it up against the tree in

894
00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:09,610
other words if you you hit an oak tree

895
00:44:14,850 --> 00:44:12,580
use an oak branch don't use

896
00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:14,860
or whatever because they know that then

897
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:28,860
oh yeah I've just that I guess they

898
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,490
never thought about that but you know he

899
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:32,560
the other their nomadic and they're

900
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:34,150
always to me they I feel they're always

901
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,030
near a water source to I mean and yep

902
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,520
they're foraging for berries and now

903
00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:41,440
unless you run into cans - he was

904
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:43,540
foraging for for crawfish in the river

905
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:48,460
and yes it was wooded around the area -

906
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:51,490
so it makes it good for them hiding in

907
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:53,500
the brushes and and so forth they're

908
00:44:59,850 --> 00:44:55,870
there they're very adept and very

909
00:45:03,000 --> 00:44:59,860
intelligent as far as hiding they know

910
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:03,010
how as a group to use skills that are

911
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:06,400
almost like military-style skills where

912
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:10,480
they'll surround you and we are going to

913
00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:15,310
go to the Eureka Springs UFO conference

914
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:17,020
this year there was our conference on

915
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:21,190
Ozark 1 and we'd been many times but we

916
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:22,660
got this new trailer that we haven't

917
00:45:27,330 --> 00:45:24,430
been able to get out and so it's a good

918
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,340
chance to do that yeah so if any of you

919
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:29,440
are near Ozark or go to the Ozark

920
00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:31,630
Conference look for us and coming tap us

921
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:34,780
on the shoulder and say hi so tell us

922
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:36,850
your story well yeah we're not we're not

923
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:38,680
presenting there we're just attending

924
00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:43,210
but they're there to support chase klutz

925
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:46,120
key instead in Freedman and they're

926
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:49,330
gonna be there in Manhattan and

927
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:51,910
Stanton's got a new he presented it on

928
00:46:00,210 --> 00:45:58,000
the cruise a new lecture which I thought

929
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:00,220
was pretty good but you know the

930
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:04,480
military and how much how much money we

931
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:08,320
spend on different things in 22 million

932
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:16,240
dollars that yet the Pentagon spent 22

933
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:17,740
million dollars is a drop in the bucket

934
00:46:25,070 --> 00:46:22,690
but when Robert Bigelow cut the deal

935
00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:25,080
with MUFON and and bought their files

936
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:26,380
that's where

937
00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:28,030
it came out of that 22 million dollars

938
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:31,870
oh that makes sense

939
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:37,450
yeah so you guys you guys have done some

940
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,820
investigating - with with the ghosts and

941
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:41,680
paranormal have you have you guys came

942
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:45,310
across anything really strange well I

943
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:47,410
think the most interesting thing that we

944
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:49,960
had was when we investigated Eugene

945
00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:50,950
Leroy Hart

946
00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:53,390
yeah we need to go back and do that yeah

947
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:54,540
[Music]

948
00:47:05,280 --> 00:46:59,290
on the night of the full Blood Moon we

949
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:05,290
we did alive yeah yeah that that one was

950
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:07,570
probably the most fascinating one to me

951
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:10,630
because we made contact with yeah you

952
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:12,610
know we we were gonna go do the sky

953
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:16,560
watch so we actually cut the

954
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:19,660
investigation for the for Leroy Hart

955
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:23,950
short and we we we really because we

956
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:26,410
weren't really finished with it but you

957
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:28,900
know we want to get down there and get

958
00:47:34,290 --> 00:47:32,140
all set up for Scott which ended up not

959
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,300
working out but I don't think we got I

960
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:35,920
don't think we had enough internet

961
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:38,250
signal or cellular signal I think that

962
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:41,230
signal we were down on the lake and on

963
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:44,710
Ken's property yeah we did we did good

964
00:47:52,590 --> 00:47:48,160
with house using my uh my iphone is a

965
00:47:55,470 --> 00:47:52,600
hot spot in this tub yeah uh look us go

966
00:47:59,250 --> 00:47:55,480
visit to Metropolis it yeah it's in the

967
00:48:00,960 --> 00:47:59,260
boonies yeah like we had have a hard

968
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:00,970
time getting ahold of Ken especially

969
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:02,440
when he's down in the park because yeah

970
00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:04,510
it's kind of a dead spot and course

971
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:05,860
that's where we were when we were trying

972
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:08,650
to do the Sky Watch but but that to me

973
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:11,200
that was the most fascinating case that

974
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:12,460
we ever investigated

975
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:15,310
I think the Springfield one was to

976
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:17,650
Springfield was interesting yeah

977
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:20,710
yeah and then we did a another one where

978
00:48:25,890 --> 00:48:22,810
we made contact with the chem birth at

979
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:25,900
the old house that all the windows were

980
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:27,850
out of it and we're freezing cold and

981
00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:34,660
yeah eight room yeah yeah we yeah we

982
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:39,700
made contact with a guy that lived there

983
00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:43,540
it was the father of the guy that whose

984
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:47,230
dad we made contact with Matt us there

985
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:50,230
at the the old building and gave us some

986
00:48:58,170 --> 00:48:54,880
background history on the place and it

987
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:58,180
was actually built in the before Leo

988
00:49:02,340 --> 00:48:58,930
McCarey

989
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,350
yeah before it was was just a territory

990
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:04,480
at the time but it had been many things

991
00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:09,040
from a stagecoach station to the

992
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:12,220
courthouse to living quarters for people

993
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:15,880
and a sheriff's office and it been lots

994
00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:17,800
of different things and they're a big

995
00:49:21,150 --> 00:49:19,420
huge tree out in front of it and I'm

996
00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:21,160
pretty sure when it was the courthouse

997
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:24,220
it was that was a hanging tree oh yeah

998
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:28,290
yeah and but anyway we made contact with

999
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,450
the guy's father they said he wasn't a

1000
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:33,040
very nice guy there was a murder that

1001
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:36,430
had taken place in in the room we were

1002
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:40,000
in and we made contact with him and I

1003
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:42,190
actually moved him on moved him out of

1004
00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:45,310
there um asked him if he won he was we

1005
00:49:49,950 --> 00:49:46,750
said we he was forgiven for what he'd

1006
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:49,960
done and and would did he want to go

1007
00:49:54,590 --> 00:49:51,850
home and be with God and he said yes and

1008
00:49:58,740 --> 00:49:54,600
so we moved him on and we moved out so

1009
00:50:00,240 --> 00:49:58,750
all very cool very cool yeah well let's

1010
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:00,250
let's take one more break you're

1011
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:01,570
listening to paying radio on the

1012
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:03,430
inception radio network tonight we have

1013
00:50:08,070 --> 00:50:05,050
on dick and Marilyn Carlson of the

1014
00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:08,080
Oklahoma UFO paranormal team and we will

1015
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:12,790
be right back and welcome back to paying

1016
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:14,980
radio we're back on the air after a

1017
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:17,410
three to four-month hiatus but tonight

1018
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:19,600
we have on dick and Marilyn Carlson of

1019
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:22,450
the UFO with excuse me Oklahoma UFO

1020
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:24,040
paranormal team and we thank everybody

1021
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:26,200
for joining us so we're going straight

1022
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:28,090
to a question from chat from our friend

1023
00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:31,480
Dan guys do they regard that you do you

1024
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:33,660
regard the UFO phenomena as possibly

1025
00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:36,010
interdimensional and does life after

1026
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:39,340
death cross over so we're getting deep

1027
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:41,050
into here do you think these are our

1028
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:42,910
these godlike beings possibly coming

1029
00:50:51,790 --> 00:50:49,760
interdimensional and extra

1030
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:51,800
extraterrestrial

1031
00:50:58,410 --> 00:50:55,520
so and you don't always know what you're

1032
00:51:01,210 --> 00:50:58,420
dealing with and a lot of times et

1033
00:51:05,859 --> 00:51:01,220
interdimensional ETS are mistaken for

1034
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:05,869
ghosts so because they can go in between

1035
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:09,650
dimensions and sometimes their ships are

1036
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:12,470
interdimensional like that one that

1037
00:51:18,730 --> 00:51:14,210
beautiful you saw the canisters of

1038
00:51:25,330 --> 00:51:18,740
fabric of the sky yeah we were coming we

1039
00:51:28,510 --> 00:51:25,340
were in Arizona coming down Sedona and I

1040
00:51:33,070 --> 00:51:28,520
see this what appears like a circular

1041
00:51:37,630 --> 00:51:33,080
rainbow in the sky beautiful day clear

1042
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:37,640
sunny day and I'm looking at this

1043
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:41,050
rainbow and all of a sudden it's this

1044
00:51:49,570 --> 00:51:44,480
object began to emerge out of the

1045
00:51:53,710 --> 00:51:49,580
rainbow and became more more and more

1046
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:53,720
like a circular UFO and then you could

1047
00:51:59,020 --> 00:51:56,510
see the whole whole UFO and then it came

1048
00:52:02,080 --> 00:51:59,030
down and over across the highway above

1049
00:52:04,170 --> 00:52:02,090
the truck and down across the trees on

1050
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:04,180
them on the left-hand side of us and

1051
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:07,369
down disappeared down into the valley

1052
00:52:15,070 --> 00:52:11,890
and it I'm sure it was an innard event

1053
00:52:17,290 --> 00:52:15,080
interdimensional craft that we saw so

1054
00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:17,300
you so I was trying to drive Maryland

1055
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:19,160
you saw her at me stop see how that

1056
00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:20,930
stops when you see that I'm on the

1057
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:22,790
interstate coming down these big trucks

1058
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:25,190
or behind me and I said I just can't

1059
00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:27,920
can't stop well there really was no

1060
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:40,210
so you know and that's when I realized

1061
00:52:49,870 --> 00:52:43,510
that that there are interdimensional

1062
00:52:52,450 --> 00:52:49,880
beings and that's why sometimes people

1063
00:52:56,170 --> 00:52:52,460
that CET they're there and then they're

1064
00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:56,180
not there because they're in between

1065
00:52:59,470 --> 00:52:57,140
dimensions

1066
00:53:01,240 --> 00:52:59,480
yeah I was I was gonna mention that to

1067
00:53:04,030 --> 00:53:01,250
you I mean do you think people have that

1068
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:04,040
that third eye to see and you know these

1069
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:05,210
beings are

1070
00:53:09,850 --> 00:53:06,860
in the sky I know people that see them

1071
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:09,860
all the time some people are more prone

1072
00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:12,290
to being able to see them because they

1073
00:53:16,810 --> 00:53:13,790
they're just to have that gift or

1074
00:53:18,340 --> 00:53:16,820
ability that like their third eyes you

1075
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,350
would call it as is a little more

1076
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:20,240
developed than we all have the ability

1077
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:22,490
but some of us have it more developed

1078
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:26,930
than others and so and you can actually

1079
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:31,990
work at developing your third eye and

1080
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:34,990
making contact with the other side so

1081
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:39,490
and in my opinion and based on my own

1082
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:44,330
experience meditation and working with

1083
00:53:53,110 --> 00:53:47,570
the chakras and opening up the chakras

1084
00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:53,120
is what allows you to see and feel in

1085
00:53:59,770 --> 00:53:54,740
meditation

1086
00:54:02,170 --> 00:53:59,780
yep so I did mine today 26 minutes it's

1087
00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:02,180
a podcast but you know you they claim

1088
00:54:05,170 --> 00:54:03,350
you're supposed to stay up and do your

1089
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,180
breathing during meditation it just

1090
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:07,040
knocks me out like within about five

1091
00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:08,930
minutes but I call it my little nap time

1092
00:54:21,850 --> 00:54:11,750
with relaxing oceans and my ears and

1093
00:54:22,570 --> 00:54:21,860
sure yeah guided meditation or you can

1094
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:22,580
go on your own

1095
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:27,110
you know minutes mm-hmm teaches you

1096
00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:28,850
something that you don't you don't

1097
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:32,630
realize you can do yeah right right

1098
00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:34,850
so what experience have you guys had

1099
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:37,070
what experiences are you know cases have

1100
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:38,660
you guys had with any Bigfoot activity

1101
00:54:48,940 --> 00:54:46,430
in Oklahoma let's see we went Bigfoot

1102
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:48,950
hunting a couple times it hasn't we

1103
00:54:54,850 --> 00:54:50,450
haven't spent a lot of time Bigfoot

1104
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:54,860
hunting ken has been out looking he's

1105
00:55:00,790 --> 00:54:57,710
kids were doing it we I can't spend out

1106
00:55:03,130 --> 00:55:00,800
more seacoast like to the you know to

1107
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:03,140
the rivers and everything yeah

1108
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:08,450
but we we go to regular Bigfoot meetings

1109
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:12,170
and conferences and so forth so we you

1110
00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:13,760
know we kind of keep track of what's

1111
00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:23,200
but we have not cast a big footprint in

1112
00:55:28,210 --> 00:55:24,020
quite a while

1113
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:28,220
no we casted some prints footprints at

1114
00:55:36,790 --> 00:55:32,240
Lake Stanley Draper and there's been a

1115
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:36,800
reported Bigfoot cases on Lake Stanley

1116
00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:40,490
Draper so when we got the report of

1117
00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:42,740
these footprints and they were right

1118
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:45,320
left right left footprints we did go out

1119
00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:49,070
and cast those it was an interesting

1120
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:51,140
thing it was in the wintertime and it

1121
00:55:57,790 --> 00:55:55,610
was a where barefoot oh wow like and

1122
00:56:00,340 --> 00:55:57,800
that went on for miles and followed

1123
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:00,350
these tracks for least a couple miles

1124
00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:01,130
yeah

1125
00:56:07,870 --> 00:56:04,430
alongside the river or a delay and then

1126
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,880
but it was from anywhere where anybody

1127
00:56:12,070 --> 00:56:09,440
yeah we've kept looking along the

1128
00:56:16,810 --> 00:56:12,080
shoreline to see if somebody had a boat

1129
00:56:21,070 --> 00:56:16,820
or something down by the knee just on

1130
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:21,080
this dirt road yeah and it had been it

1131
00:56:26,740 --> 00:56:23,450
had rained a couple days before it was

1132
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:26,750
muddy and it made for good footprints on

1133
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:31,430
the road the dirt road so um well that

1134
00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:33,110
yeah that's that's a little too strange

1135
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:35,870
for a human to be old doing stuff like

1136
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:38,570
that yeah but with dr. Jim Whitehead

1137
00:56:43,210 --> 00:56:40,850
again it was kind of a local expert

1138
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:43,220
expert in he says although Sir William

1139
00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:44,570
should've went the other way you know

1140
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:46,700
you guys went north and you should

1141
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:48,650
instead of making a left turn on that

1142
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:50,660
trail you should have made a writer yeah

1143
00:56:56,020 --> 00:56:52,490
yeah that's the story of my life you

1144
00:57:00,490 --> 00:56:56,030
know I spend quite a bit of time out

1145
00:57:03,010 --> 00:57:00,500
there yeah porn footprints yeah

1146
00:57:05,620 --> 00:57:03,020
no guys you've had oh you've had several

1147
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:05,630
people to reach out to you to help them

1148
00:57:09,850 --> 00:57:07,730
with cases you know you know you know

1149
00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:09,860
for example MUFON or things so you get

1150
00:57:12,990 --> 00:57:11,360
that on often where people reach out to

1151
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:13,000
you for help

1152
00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:17,230
occasionally it does happen I mean we

1153
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:21,260
chase kutsuki had an investigated board

1154
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,960
camp which is over in Arkansas and she

1155
00:57:31,810 --> 00:57:28,640
called said you know I'd really like to

1156
00:57:32,590 --> 00:57:31,820
get a second opinion on it would you

1157
00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:32,600
mind going over

1158
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:36,430
checking it out they see there's a

1159
00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:40,160
crystal mine there and that's he you dig

1160
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:42,470
crystal mine but they were seeing

1161
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:46,990
strange lights off in the woods and

1162
00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:51,350
around around the property and so chase

1163
00:57:58,270 --> 00:57:53,660
went investigated it she saw a strange

1164
00:58:02,800 --> 00:57:58,280
light then they brought back Josh gates

1165
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:02,810
from mm yeah from the TV program they

1166
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:05,090
saw light oh yeah that was neat I did

1167
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:09,530
see that catch that and we went and dick

1168
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:12,290
and I did not see a light at all but Ken

1169
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:14,570
and Helen were walking down the road and

1170
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:16,370
they did see a light off in the woods

1171
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:19,760
and Ken flashed his flashlight back at

1172
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:26,090
it and it seemed to respond so I stood

1173
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:30,290
up all around the pit and we had six

1174
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:35,150
cameras and did you know magnetometers

1175
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:36,050
the whole bit

1176
00:58:46,030 --> 00:58:41,920
one thing that was interesting is George

1177
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:46,040
but that's slick yeah yeah I had some

1178
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:46,850
hydrophones

1179
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:51,890
and he can and you can put them on the

1180
00:58:57,370 --> 00:58:54,650
ground in where the pit is and you could

1181
00:59:00,250 --> 00:58:57,380
hear water running well that means that

1182
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:00,260
you know something is exciting the great

1183
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:02,930
crystal mm-hmm and like any kind of its

1184
00:59:08,140 --> 00:59:05,690
you know they're quartz crystals and you

1185
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:08,150
get them excited enough they'll generate

1186
00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:11,990
a dinner a to discharge so that's kind

1187
00:59:17,830 --> 00:59:14,630
of our theory we didn't get in to prove

1188
00:59:21,010 --> 00:59:17,840
it other than the running water and this

1189
00:59:22,990 --> 00:59:21,020
pit that has crystals in it but I was a

1190
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:23,000
sergeant in the Navy and our Hydra films

1191
00:59:27,490 --> 00:59:25,430
were all crystal you know where it took

1192
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:27,500
the sound wave made it into an

1193
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:30,890
electrical pulse and then went into you

1194
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:33,890
know the into the amplifiers and then

1195
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:37,280
you listened on a headset so I know what

1196
00:59:43,050 --> 00:59:40,710
crystals can do and

1197
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:43,060
anyway that's I think it's a good theory

1198
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:46,090
because did you excite them enough no

1199
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:48,970
discharge but if people are interested

1200
00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:52,960
in going out to board camp just do

1201
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:55,500
Google search on board camp mine and

1202
01:00:02,540 --> 00:59:59,290
you'll find the contact and for a small

1203
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:02,550
fee you all can go out there and and

1204
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:05,200
maybe get lucky yeah I get lucky and see

1205
01:00:11,250 --> 01:00:08,830
some lights so it's open to the public

1206
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:11,260
yeah and then the owners I forget the

1207
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:12,609
names I'm friends with them on Facebook

1208
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:14,290
because we did do a show on that too a

1209
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:16,540
while back and very very nice and

1210
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:20,350
genuine people too you know yeah yeah

1211
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:22,330
she's great I chat with her on occasion

1212
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:24,250
they've great stuff that was that was

1213
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:26,290
one of my favorite shows you know in the

1214
01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:28,570
past few years chatting with you know

1215
01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:30,670
people that are just seeing some strange

1216
01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:34,800
stuff on their property you know so

1217
01:00:43,290 --> 01:00:37,420
they've got a little place where you can

1218
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:43,300
camp and stay the night so they built us

1219
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:48,310
a stage they're like a musical you know

1220
01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:52,630
to bring you know bands in mm-hmm and

1221
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:55,300
then he took the side of the hill and

1222
01:01:01,020 --> 01:00:58,480
kind of terrorists it so people could

1223
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:01,030
set up chairs and stuff and that was

1224
01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:03,090
kind of the original thing he did but

1225
01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:05,800
and then now they have this thing with

1226
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:08,980
he's he's seeing these lights and

1227
01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:11,950
there's been reported UFO a couple times

1228
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:13,830
on scene mm-hmm

1229
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:16,720
unfortunately even instrumenting up we

1230
01:01:21,390 --> 01:01:19,060
really didn't we didn't get anything

1231
01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:21,400
yeah there wasn't you know black

1232
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:25,780
background yeah radiation you check for

1233
01:01:31,230 --> 01:01:28,690
all kinds of phenomenon yeah

1234
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:31,240
luckily Ken and Helen saw the one light

1235
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:33,910
so that did prove to us that there is

1236
01:01:38,849 --> 01:01:37,270
some activity on the property that's the

1237
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:38,859
kind of way it is with almost any of

1238
01:01:44,450 --> 01:01:40,690
these investigations I mean it's kind of

1239
01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:44,460
a hit and miss but we've got our own

1240
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:48,070
hauntings and saw absolutely nothing you

1241
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:52,900
know and then like we did in Belu when

1242
01:01:57,180 --> 01:01:54,490
you guys run here I mean

1243
01:02:01,560 --> 01:01:57,190
that was very active yeah but we weren't

1244
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:01,570
expecting to make contact we got his mom

1245
01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:05,290
yeah yeah so we kind of thought well

1246
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,360
maybe Leroy really was buried there he

1247
01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:10,000
was he died in a prison but they got a

1248
01:02:17,010 --> 01:02:13,750
beautiful headstone I mean it's big so

1249
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:17,020
the the tribe must have done that and of

1250
01:02:21,830 --> 01:02:18,400
course his mother's bird decided with a

1251
01:02:29,370 --> 01:02:26,010
button like I say sometimes you just you

1252
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:29,380
gotta go that's all I can say you got to

1253
01:02:35,010 --> 01:02:31,510
go see what you can find

1254
01:02:38,090 --> 01:02:35,020
yeah course we use instrumentation when

1255
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,100
we do our investigations but

1256
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:40,720
occasionally we do get activity get

1257
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,090
knocking on the walls or you can hear

1258
01:02:49,470 --> 01:02:46,000
footsteps going down the steps we we did

1259
01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:49,480
that at that old church yeah MODOK MODOK

1260
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:54,580
yeah we were sitting there waiting for

1261
01:02:57,810 --> 01:02:56,350
something to happen all of a sudden that

1262
01:03:00,210 --> 01:02:57,820
you could hear the bang bang bang bang

1263
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:00,220
up footsteps coming down the stairs from

1264
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:03,520
up in the attic and then we went back a

1265
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:07,510
couple years later and we got all kinds

1266
01:03:14,940 --> 01:03:12,070
of equipment and didn't get anything out

1267
01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:14,950
there we had the heard the sound of a

1268
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:18,040
baby crying we got it on audiotape yeah

1269
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:21,280
but uh and the later we found the grave

1270
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:26,130
for a baby was buried so interesting you

1271
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:29,290
guys do you guys always have like a big

1272
01:03:34,859 --> 01:03:32,020
ready to go like run out the door yep a

1273
01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:34,869
lot of equipment yeah but we've got it

1274
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:37,750
divided into what kind of an

1275
01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:40,000
investigation were kind of ocean if

1276
01:03:50,099 --> 01:03:42,670
Bigfoot is this box and ghost hunting is

1277
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,109
this box and so in the you know we were

1278
01:03:58,140 --> 01:03:52,480
prepared to do casting of footprints if

1279
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:58,150
we need to and we had a figure one day

1280
01:04:02,700 --> 01:03:59,920
I'm at about 20,000 dollars worth of

1281
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:02,710
equipment yeah Wow

1282
01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:04,600
bring with muth on we were

1283
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:07,000
only ones luckily I was consulting at

1284
01:04:11,790 --> 01:04:09,340
that time and so we end up you know

1285
01:04:13,350 --> 01:04:11,800
buying things lots of equipment to

1286
01:04:15,660 --> 01:04:13,360
investigate but we are mostly the

1287
01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:15,670
equipment for the team - mm-hmm so

1288
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:17,260
nobody really has to go buy anything

1289
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:18,910
else all right

1290
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:23,170
right that's but it could be it can be

1291
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:26,250
very it can be very expensive -

1292
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:28,450
especially ghosts honey because you've

1293
01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:30,370
got all these we went to this Paracon

1294
01:04:34,790 --> 01:04:32,140
right and there's a gentleman there

1295
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:34,800
selling all these different sensors geez

1296
01:04:39,690 --> 01:04:35,980
you know

1297
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,700
so we sixty eighty a hundred and twenty

1298
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:41,920
dollars or whatever not super expensive

1299
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:47,140
but do they work for you I don't know we

1300
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:49,180
have an opportunity to use them true

1301
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:52,090
yeah so no you guys got ended up getting

1302
01:04:58,500 --> 01:04:54,670
that that little thermal attachment for

1303
01:05:00,740 --> 01:04:58,510
an iphone is that correct yes yes it

1304
01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:00,750
really works great and we use it for

1305
01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:05,020
Bigfoot hunting and show me ghost

1306
01:05:11,850 --> 01:05:07,150
hunting it'll it'll kind of tell you if

1307
01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:11,860
they're like there's heater or cold yeah

1308
01:05:20,490 --> 01:05:16,990
in an area we did that the night before

1309
01:05:25,830 --> 01:05:20,500
the Perricone yeah went to the over a

1310
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:25,840
holter mansion and he was a UH one of

1311
01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:28,450
the settlers that came a rich settler

1312
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:31,240
yeah they came into Oklahoma he built

1313
01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:33,400
this big mansion and of course now it

1314
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:37,000
belongs to the city but it is haunted

1315
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:38,890
yeah it is haunted but we didn't get

1316
01:05:46,770 --> 01:05:40,810
anything at night well you got something

1317
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:46,780
yeah I got I got a ball yeah it was a

1318
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,530
ball of light in the bedroom where the

1319
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:53,200
children's room was and it wasn't dust

1320
01:05:59,060 --> 01:05:55,420
so no what time you see a lot of these

1321
01:06:01,530 --> 01:05:59,070
orbs or if you have a cheap camera and

1322
01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:01,540
there's dust you'll just see all kinds

1323
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:03,310
of orbs because this is dust floating

1324
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:05,650
around we did that and fill it at

1325
01:06:12,570 --> 01:06:09,280
Pennsylvania Chris and we were staying

1326
01:06:14,610 --> 01:06:12,580
down in the basement and so I had the IR

1327
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:14,620
cameras set up looking down the hallway

1328
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:18,370
and the she had a

1329
01:06:23,850 --> 01:06:22,570
a dust mop there so I was trying to

1330
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:23,860
explain to her well these things that

1331
01:06:28,140 --> 01:06:25,720
used to call orbs are just pieces of

1332
01:06:30,180 --> 01:06:28,150
dust Flint run and she didn't believe me

1333
01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:30,190
so I said let me shake this I said of

1334
01:06:36,570 --> 01:06:33,220
course there was a million orbs but yeah

1335
01:06:38,970 --> 01:06:36,580
the orb phenomena yeah but there was one

1336
01:06:43,050 --> 01:06:38,980
orb that came from the fireplaces right

1337
01:06:44,820 --> 01:06:43,060
right after oh wow it wasn't a bug right

1338
01:06:48,540 --> 01:06:44,830
from the hall right into a picture -

1339
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:48,550
yeah oh wow that's that's a neat yeah

1340
01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:51,730
that place had everything yeah it was 16

1341
01:06:55,470 --> 01:06:53,500
the house was built on a barren old

1342
01:07:00,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Indian burial ground which Carnegie

1343
01:07:03,870 --> 01:07:00,250
Mellon dig for 20 years on it uh-huh

1344
01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:03,880
it had supposedly a UFO landing down and

1345
01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:07,300
what was called the ballpark Bigfoot Ken

1346
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:10,180
ran into his big head up there of course

1347
01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:12,160
we did night vision or do get air true

1348
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:15,040
our night watches every night what else

1349
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:19,780
there was a UFO triangle UFO yeah that

1350
01:07:23,370 --> 01:07:22,240
is funny too the one out there's a you

1351
01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:23,380
know it's kind of a it's an old

1352
01:07:27,630 --> 01:07:25,060
development and there's you know people

1353
01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:27,640
are sold off the pieces of acres of

1354
01:07:31,770 --> 01:07:29,860
their land and so here's this brand-new

1355
01:07:38,070 --> 01:07:31,780
house and everybody says well that's the

1356
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:38,080
FBI house bi guy lives there so we set

1357
01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:39,910
up one camera just looking at the FBI

1358
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:48,460
house dirt through the middle of it was

1359
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:51,990
funny oh wow but that's what we saw the

1360
01:08:00,360 --> 01:07:55,210
our UFO that didn't be in the spiderweb

1361
01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:00,370
yeah yeah I remember that you guys were

1362
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:01,540
sharing that you were trying to figure

1363
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:03,610
out what what's going on it's almost a

1364
01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:05,740
year to figure out what he wants and

1365
01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:09,670
Richmond said what it was yeah millivolt

1366
01:08:19,530 --> 01:08:17,230
fine go up and look at the Google what

1367
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:19,540
was it night vision but oh no ly our

1368
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:22,210
camera spiderweb by the waves and

1369
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:24,430
there's hundreds of them and the thing

1370
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:26,620
is during the daytime the spiders are

1371
01:08:31,309 --> 01:08:28,650
making their web but you don't see it

1372
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:31,319
but for some reason

1373
01:08:35,180 --> 01:08:33,210
when I R starts doing when it gets dark

1374
01:08:38,749 --> 01:08:35,190
they're all over the place

1375
01:08:42,589 --> 01:08:38,759
those guys are busy huh and I are for

1376
01:08:43,959 --> 01:08:42,599
some reason I would have looked it I

1377
01:08:46,519 --> 01:08:43,969
never even thought of that

1378
01:08:49,519 --> 01:08:46,529
and we knew there were spiders on that

1379
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:49,529
camera earlier in the night what we had

1380
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:51,540
seen it that there it was climbing off

1381
01:08:58,129 --> 01:08:56,040
all over the camera yeah there and so

1382
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:58,139
the web actually had droplets of water

1383
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:01,679
on it when it came across the camera so

1384
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:02,880
it made it look like UFOs

1385
01:09:07,220 --> 01:09:05,730
boy did I mean yeah oh look at here it

1386
01:09:11,180 --> 01:09:07,230
looks like we can see little people

1387
01:09:15,129 --> 01:09:11,190
inside there and yeah yeah mystery for

1388
01:09:17,569 --> 01:09:15,139
almost two years we went back again and

1389
01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:17,579
we would you know down below trees well

1390
01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:19,319
couldn't have come to the UFO come down

1391
01:09:24,289 --> 01:09:21,540
through these trees and well then I came

1392
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:24,299
across this I mean what tall was it how

1393
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:26,940
big was it and it being a spider with

1394
01:09:34,069 --> 01:09:31,920
yeah but we investigated in every every

1395
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,079
angle that we possibly could just in

1396
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,440
case it wasn't no yeah oh sure yeah yeah

1397
01:09:40,970 --> 01:09:39,779
I was going yeah oh yeah so we're

1398
01:09:43,450 --> 01:09:40,980
getting close to the end of the show

1399
01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:43,460
what do you guys got planned coming up

1400
01:09:49,870 --> 01:09:45,900
well like I said we're gonna be going to

1401
01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:49,880
the Ozark Conference in in April and

1402
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:52,380
we've got a case that we're working on

1403
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:55,679
that's we haven't said too much about it

1404
01:10:00,649 --> 01:09:58,050
but it's the finding a body of the

1405
01:10:05,540 --> 01:10:00,659
little girl and so we're working on that

1406
01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:05,550
and looking around Lake Draper and this

1407
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:07,409
time we'll go down the trail the other

1408
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,369
way there you go and then we're gonna go

1409
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:13,679
out to Mike's place and see what we can

1410
01:10:20,629 --> 01:10:15,810
get because he's has a lot of strange

1411
01:10:21,919 --> 01:10:20,639
activity out there and let's see think

1412
01:10:22,669 --> 01:10:21,929
white hands gonna take us out on a

1413
01:10:25,609 --> 01:10:22,679
Bigfoot

1414
01:10:26,839 --> 01:10:25,619
yeah angel he keeps promising yeah Jim

1415
01:10:30,109 --> 01:10:26,849
Whitehead is probably gonna take herself

1416
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,119
Bigfoot hunting with them so we just

1417
01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:32,400
been tied down with yeah there's been a

1418
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:35,400
lot of things going on other otherwise

1419
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:40,170
this this winter but like I said we went

1420
01:10:45,210 --> 01:10:43,980
to the roof on crews and really really

1421
01:10:47,190 --> 01:10:45,220
did enjoy it

1422
01:10:49,530 --> 01:10:47,200
I never been in Mecca Mexico when we

1423
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:49,540
lived in San Diego she was on me all the

1424
01:10:53,370 --> 01:10:51,280
time let's go down to two one let's go

1425
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:53,380
down to one I was in San Diego when I

1426
01:10:59,490 --> 01:10:55,300
was in the Navy so I knew all about

1427
01:11:06,420 --> 01:10:59,500
Tijuana Tijuana so she got to go to

1428
01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:06,430
Cozumel oh sure oh nice nice and let our

1429
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:08,620
listeners know your website too so they

1430
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:11,110
can see your you're up to date work and

1431
01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:14,110
your password - okay well it's UFO

1432
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:19,870
paranormal team comm all one word and we

1433
01:11:25,610 --> 01:11:22,060
try to keep it updated as close as

1434
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:25,620
possible we yeah I kind of redid it

1435
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:29,530
about eight months ago so I actually got

1436
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:32,400
categories before I just had by

1437
01:11:36,930 --> 01:11:34,510
dialogical you know and everything was

1438
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:36,940
mixed in with everything and so I said

1439
01:11:42,690 --> 01:11:38,890
well I can't even find out what I'm

1440
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:42,700
looking for so so we got it out by UFO

1441
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:47,800
one by Coast Guard oh yeah all very

1442
01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:50,650
needs so so it was good having you guys

1443
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:53,020
on and if you guys want to hang on a

1444
01:11:57,540 --> 01:11:55,120
line and just silent for a second I have

1445
01:11:59,640 --> 01:11:57,550
a music request from one of the

1446
01:12:01,050 --> 01:11:59,650
listeners in chat for Geno's so thanks

1447
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:01,060
guys for coming on tonight we really

1448
01:12:11,970 --> 01:12:06,530
oh yeah thanks thanks for being my